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	uncle paulie Lifetime Site Supporter	Joined: June/02/2008 United States Posts: 1631 IP Logged
Posted: October/31/2020 at 1:05pm		Quote

PT-23 ?

	scalesoaring Supporting Vendor	Joined: October/14/2005 United States Posts: 278 IP Logged
Posted: October/31/2020 at 1:23pm		Quote

Not PT-23. PT-23 used standard construction.

Military Basic Trainer

2-place

exposed Radial engine

unique construction method

designer gave a famous lucky guy his first airplane ride

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Bruce DeVisser
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	uncle paulie Lifetime Site Supporter	Joined: June/02/2008 United States Posts: 1631 IP Logged
Posted: October/31/2020 at 1:53pm		Quote

Timm S-160 >

	scalesoaring Supporting Vendor	Joined: October/14/2005 United States Posts: 278 IP Logged
Posted: October/31/2020 at 2:25pm		Quote

Close enough. I was looking for the military designation of N2T-1, the Timm Tutor, aka "Tiny Timm". This airplane was the first one constructed using plastic, or at least they called it plastic. Molded plywood with a special adhesive, similar to the Mosquito. Unfortunately it would suffer from rot. There are a couple of flyable examples in museums. The designer, Otto Timm, gave Lucky Lindy his first airplane ride and a couple of lessons when Lindbergh started flight training in Nebraska in 1922. I have done a lot of research on this plane to design a large model of it, but it's a ways down the queue.

Uncle Paulie's turn.

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	uncle paulie Lifetime Site Supporter	Joined: June/02/2008 United States Posts: 1631 IP Logged
Posted: October/31/2020 at 2:35pm		Quote

working up some clues. Maybe a 4 engine type .

	uncle paulie Lifetime Site Supporter	Joined: June/02/2008 United States Posts: 1631 IP Logged
Posted: October/31/2020 at 3:14pm		Quote

As I said in my previous post the aircraft I am seeking has 4 engines.

1 - mid wing mono plane

2 - Came about as a an alternative choice for development to production.

3 - At least 3 other "firsts" besides it's first flight

4 - crew of seven

	uncle paulie Lifetime Site Supporter	Joined: June/02/2008 United States Posts: 1631 IP Logged
Posted: October/31/2020 at 7:40pm		Quote

the aircraft I am seeking has 4 engines.

1 - mid wing mono plane

2 - Came about as a an alternative choice for development to production.

3 - At least 3 other "firsts" besides it's first flight

4 - crew of seven

5 - designed in the late 1930's

6 - only 4 engine bomber designed as such from the start (in it's country of origin)

7 - it could out turn night fighters it encountered JU88 & BF110

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