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Avatar User Offline alanrrrm
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Posted: April/06/2013 at 6:55am  Quote
 
Hi, Guys and Gals,

I am new here, and returning to proper building (rather than ARTF), thanks to easing into retirement. When I built proper models last, Keil Kraft and Veron were in their heyday, but now I need to use my brain.

Have bought an excellent Mick Reeves one quarter scale Camel, and I can get my mind round most of this - but my main task is going to be to bend wire smoothly round curves. Most or all trailing edges and wingtips are 16 swg piano wire, as are the entire fin and rudder outlines.

I have a wire bender, but it does angles, rather than curves.

I have visited various forums (and apologies if this has been covered in a forum here, and I am just setting out to explore the site), but many tend to focus on undercarriages, and specific angles, rather than 2-3 inch diameter curves.

I have tried bending around jam jars, cans, etc., and the wire ends up in the most interesting undulating shapes. Never flowing, and never (ever), ultimately, in the right direction/ plane.

Does anyone have a definitive method to make sweeping curves for a MR kit?

Is the answer to make hard wood blanks (probably with tighter curves, to allow for the wire springing out again)? Or do I tap guide nails into a vermiculite board, and shape the wire around these with a blow torch?

I think probably the latter, but how does one avoid the metal going brittle?

All thoughts welcome and thanks in anticipation!!!
 
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Welcome to the best scale modeling site on the web. You have most likely found the Mick Reeves forum by now and have found at the top of the list Lee's Camel build where the first few pages will help you a lot.  I would urge you to dip into you wallet and become a Site Supporter, this will enable you to start your own build thread, it's not very difficult and most rewarding. You will never regret it as the help and advice available here is second to none.

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Posted: April/06/2013 at 7:30am  Quote
 
Welcome to the forum Alan, I second Dave's suggestion as I too have been following Lee's build thread with interest. 

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Hello Alan and welcome to RCSB/  David is right,take a look at Lee's thread, and there are a couple others going on now too.  But my first thought was the same as your last sentance - make a full size pattern and pull the wire around that - I would think it would not have to be fully formed to the curve but that fixing it to the TE of the ribs would hold it in place.

And he is also correct about becoming a site supporter - it is amazing how much help you will get and how many friends you will make.

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Howdy Alan,

  Just a thought . I have used three pegs set in line into a wooden board. Wire is then pulled through with a set of grips and pushed from behind as not to pull the bend out. The closer the pegs are together, the tighter the curve. Trial and error will tell me how for apart to make the pegs to achieve a proper curve. Industrial benders work in this fashion utilizing rollers. Hope this helps.

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Posted: April/06/2013 at 12:05pm  Quote
 

Hi Alan,

I found the only way to bend the wire was by hand, as I'm sure you've found out, It's piano wire and very tough, if you try to use formers it just springs back out and is really difficult to judge.

Just bend it with your hands and keep comparing it with the plans, you need to get a good shape because you don't want it under any tension when fitted to the wooden parts.

Lee


 
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