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Posted: February/05/2019 at 1:40pm  Quote
 
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Very nice Sparky.  Yes, a lot more sacrifice involved in FS flying.
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Flying R/C vs FS -- IMO they are two different ball games.  I found that all of my knowledge and experience from R/C and study of aerodynamics were only slightly helpful.  The hardest parts of the full size flying skill set don't have much overlap with the R/C skill set unfortunately, and I think some of it actually made it *harder* to learn what I needed to learn to fly full size.
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Gary, I will tend to disagree with that. I think a sound understanding in aerodynamics gained from models to FS is very helpful. The difference is the motions and the G fources encountered when riding in an airplane.
FS to models not as much and can be a hindrance (if they think they know it all and shouldn't have any problem flying this little airplane.) Perspective is much different and takes a bit of getting used to.

I have been contacted recently to start flying a Old Cessna Citation part 135. They want to send me to school and everything. They understand that models come first and I can decline a trip if it is conflict with my toy airplanes.
We will see what transpires....
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[QUOTE=ghethco]I have been contacted recently to start flying a Old Cessna Citation part 135. They want to send me to school and everything. They understand that models come first and I can decline a trip if it is conflict with my toy airplanes.


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Gary, I will tend to disagree with that. I think a sound understanding in aerodynamics gained from models to FS is very helpful. The difference is the motions and the G fources encountered when riding in an airplane.

Sparky

I see what you're saying.  It's helpful, but for me it just didn't seem to make things go much faster.  Maybe that is because it didn't help that much with the parts that were the most difficult for me to learn.

My previous R/C experience helped me in learning to fly the airplane, but that is the easy part.  It's all the rest that for me was harder (using the radio, dealing with traffic, learning all the rules, multi-tasking, etc).  Everyone is different I guess.

There were also a few things I had to un-learn.  My typical landing technique in R/C is basically a wheel landing.  This comes from years of flying R/C warbirds with high wing loading that "land hot".  It was hard for me to master the technique of doing a good full-stall 3-point landing in the Citabria.  I tended to want to come in faster and "fly it onto the ground" like I've been doing for years in R/C.  I also didn't fully understand the concepts and technique involved in flying coordinated.  It's easy to be sloppy with the rudder when flying R/C (bank and yank), and it's harder to tell when a model is flying coordinated, slipping or skidding.  Good rudder technique is essential in FS, particularly gliders.  Learning when and where to slip or skid, and when not to slip or skid can save your life.

I have a feeling though, that the FS experience is going to give me new perspectives going back to R/C.  We'll see, I haven't done much R/C flying yet since starting again.

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[QUOTE=ghethco]I have been contacted recently to start flying a Old Cessna Citation part 135. They want to send me to school and everything. They understand that models come first and I can decline a trip if it is conflict with my toy airplanes.
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Don,
They haven't handed me the company CC for my trip to Orlando to attend training.
We shall see what unfolds.
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Hi Ed,

Yes, I noticed you still have the Garber Virtual Tour on your website.  Thank you for that.  I just traded emails with Scott (in the photo) last week.  He is doing well, still doing the docent thing at the UHC (Udvar Hazy Center) NASM.  Unfortunately the unrestored collection is a lot less available to the public than it used to be.  No civilians are allowed into the restoration hall at UHC, and Garber is now completely closed to the public.  Too bad.

Gary

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Wow! Its been more than a little while since Paul Garber...



Good to see you land here again. Your most interesting projects the
BV-141 and Horton. Everyone will enjoy you're back on terra firma.






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Gary,

Robbing the public of the joys within the "unrestored" areas of Garber is like stealing candy
from a baby. Our resources seem to be shrinking daily.

Yesterday I enjoyed a receptive ear in San Diego. They are only about 50% through indexing
their archive. To my surprise an archivist offered to graze through boxes looking for drawings
I am looking for.

More and more our resources are being appended by the Smithsonian's expansion. Museums
have been reduced to "show and tell" halls instead of resources. Good to hear Scott's over at
Udvar Hazy enjoying the scenery. 

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