Good evening, and glad to hear from you.  Happier still that you & I can relate to the -580.  My daughter is a nurse practitioner for a veterinary hospital and commutes daily from her home in Manteca to near the Bay Area on the -580.  Most happier still more, you hit that hammer on the nail about searching for topics.  I was trying to figure that one out.  I'm interested in all types of aircraft from biplanes to jets.  Lately, I've found myself attracted to biplanes, Golden Age of Aviation, classics of the fifties (civilian or military), rare or unusual aircraft.  I used to personally know, and be very close friends, of the late Peter Westburg.  For those who may not know, Peter is famous for his incredibly accurate and detailed drawings of aircraft that rival those of Bill Wylam.  Great guy.

JQ, thank you for your welcome.  It's most appreciated and I'm grateful.

Sincerely,

Gary

Good evening.  I used to live in L.A. and Peter used to live in Santa Monica which is about 45 minutes from where I lived.  He spread his detailed drawings over 3-4 pages whereas Wylam tried to cram it all on one page, giving it the illusion that there was more information packed into his drawings than they really were.  Peter used to take great glee in pointing out spme pf the inaccuracies of Wylam.  They were friendly rivals, and it tickled me to know end.  We'd spend hours together.  

I will follow your guidance and try to post a few photos of the S.E. 5.  Don't have a website or build thread.  How do I start one in order that I may start posting the S.E. 5?  I must admit that I surprised myself at the level of detailing I managed to cram into such a small Guillow's S.E. 5 and the Wright Bros' Flyer.  Spent months researching both before committing to the build and even researched more while the build was taking place.

Thank you for your help.  I may ask you for more from time to tine until I get my feet a bit more wet.  Hope you don't mind.

Sincerely,

Gary

I forgot to mention a couple of things regarding the Berliner Joyce.  First, Peter sold me his collection, including all of his drawings.  The original mylars are donated to SMithsonian from which you can place an order.  However, he couldn't have produced his excellent drawings without some form of research or materials in hand to help.  I can look in my storage facility to see if he's got anything relevant to the Berliner Joyce, and in particular to the P-16.  

Secondly, I recall reading about a modeler who built an extremely detailed R/C Berliner Joyce.  I believe it was in one of the British publications such as Flying Scale Model.  It was an excellent article featuring several photos of the model during construction as well as the finish and of course, flying.  I I can find it, I'll gladly pass on the word to you.  Just let me know your thoughts.

I've got the word portion of posting.  It's just trying to figure out the method of including photos.  I've tried several resized photos and it doesn't seem to work.  I'll keep trying until something happens.

Sincerely,

Gary